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It could be that i just need to make it clearer that you only need to play with the radio buttons if you want your selection saved. Sorry if it isn't to clearly layed out. If i get time today i'll change that. ps thanks for your feedback
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For some reason I missed the blindingly obvious text links at the end of the introduction paragraph. Probably because they are not underlined (and oddly, the title is).
I did however, read the intro (yes all of it) before trying to go further. I'll go back and take a good look later. |
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hehe ok m8 cool
im thinking about rebuilding the sites layout and taking the frames out. What do you think of this? good idea or keep the frames? Be cool if u could give me your verdict thxs
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Personally I HATE frames! The main advantage of not using frames is search engines hardly use Meta tags any more, if you've go a framed set page there will be no content on it for the search engine to catalogue. It will instead catalogue your other pages and point the user to these pages, which in your case will have no navigation on them. You don’t see any of the serious websites (microsoft.com, ibm.com, google.com, w3.org, ect) using frames do you? It's for a good reason!
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MSDN does use frames, google indexes frame pages perfectly.
But...they are officialy declared as DEAD since XHTML 1.0.
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Sorry to make my point clear, google index's pages. If that page is in a frame set google will point to the page not the frame set, thus you will lose some of the sites functionality.
MSDN does use frames but i this content I think it's a good decision as there is no other way to achieve what the site does. Also it is setup up that if a page loads outside a frame set the frame set will be automatically created. Thus solving the google problem. As to your comment on XHTML your right, and I believe every one should be encouraged to use XHTML as it brings some standards to the web. Thus hopefully bring some standards to browsers, so content will apear the same in all browsers. After all the web should be acessable to all should it not? Anywho thats my 2cents Jas
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It's all true
...well nearly.The MSDN functionality could be archived with a static DIV. Anyway, standards are at the moment supported very well, except for the only evil browser...Microsoft Internet Exploder . It doesn't support proper CSS, and because of its error-correction and quirks mode, even standard pages get interpreted wrong.
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The MSDN functionality could be put into a DIV but that would mean re-loading the whole page every time you open a menu up.
This has always bugged me, why doesn't microsoft just support CSS correctly, theres no reason why not. When i was refering to standards I meant users, as there are so many badly designed sites out there that are optomised for IE. Coders need to be encouraged to conform to some standards. Jas
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