www.bniwatch-city.com

[webstage5]

Hi All,
Love some feedback

www.bniwatch-city.com

ALSO - what are people using for web stats besides the default? Anything cheap and robust?

Mikey

www.bniwatch-city.com

[muse]

wow

that's a really neat website.I like the mellow colour scheme. I am toying with the full xml portal at my catalyst2 site http://www.Trade5.com - the full xml portal includes comprehensive site statistics - browser type , referrer , ip etc and it is free.

http://www.fullxml.com

[webstage5]

HI,
Could you explain more about full XML and what it does for your site?

Thanks,
Mike

[muse]

full xml is a web portal , all the pages are provided , there is no database backend and it installs simply by mirroring the directory structure on your website and configuring it back stage. everything you currently see at my page is a part of full xml -nb it is a complete content management system. I have added xml rss feeds on the frontpage , some javascript etc. you add pages and choose where you want them to appear in the structure and choose who you want to see them - members etc so guestbook , forums , quotations manager , downloads etc are standard parts of the site. it is really easy to edit and add content and you can add html/javascript as new pages directly (within the system) , which after you tell it where you want them , it will index. site stats are a part of the whole portal (accessible from the wysiwyg admin interface) , so im not sure if you can pull them out to work independently on your site. BTW your site does look really great as it is and is easily navigable - i suggest you 'play' with full xml elsewhere to see if you like or can use it. a comparable 'portal' is aspnuke , which i have not tried yet.

if it is not possible to integrate the site stats from fullxml , you could always try browsing the resource directory at http://www.4guysfromrolla.com , there is bound to be something free or cheap there for monitoring visitors.

[webscript]

To Trade5,

The xml portal sounds cool.

Is your website using that (trade5.com) ?

I have been to your .net playground site (freemoney?) and I like the examples you have on the site.

The send mail one, it doesn't need an smtp server ?

Good One,

Oh yeah and how do you do that one active visitor thing. Thats neat ! Haha.

Thanks..
Adam.

[muse]

--To Trade5,

--The xml portal sounds cool.

thats what you see at http://www.trade5.com

--Is your website using that (trade5.com) ? YES

--I have been to your .net playground site (freemoney?) and I like the examples you have on the site.

--cheers - if anyone alse wants to look thats http://freemoney.www2.dotnetplayground.com

--The send mail one, it doesn't need an smtp server ?

I am using smtp.blueyonder.co.uk with it as you can see in the source , this doesn't require authentication currently BUT it will only relay mail to another blueyonder email address hence i can use the script to set up a form to send mail to myself. if you try anything else you'll get a 530.

--Good One,

Thanks for your comments , i'm pleased that the few months i spent as a complete geek in the winter of last year , learning asp.net a bit have been rewarding to other people.

--Oh yeah and how do you do that one active visitor thing. Thats neat ! Haha.

cheers - sometimes it does say 3 or 4 , honest!! - its a drop in the ocean of using the file global.asa or global.asax in asp.net to record people in active sessions. its done thusly:

<script language="vBScript" runat="Server">

Sub Application_OnStart(Sender as Object, E AS EventArgs)
application("user_sessions") = 0
End Sub

Sub Application_OnEnd(Sender as Object, E AS EventArgs)
End Sub

Sub Session_OnStart(Sender as Object, E AS EventArgs)
application.lock()
application("user_sessions") = application("user_sessions") + 1
application.unlock()
End Sub

Sub Session_OnEnd(Sender as Object, E AS EventArgs)
application.lock()
application("user_sessions") = application("user_sessions") - 1
application.unlock()
End Sub

</script>

then call application ("user_sessions") from your html/asp/asp net or application("activevisitors") or whatever you've done with it. or in aspx

<asp:label id="visitors" runat="server" />

thats a bit messy , but you get the drift.

[DigiGuru]

The only problem you will have with this is that the session_onEnd sometimes doesn't run...

This can leave you with more active visitors than you actually have.

I use a system with a "lastaccess" field in a database.

The user's sessionid is then pulled and stored in the db.

I then select a count of users who have been active within the last 20 minutes.

Anything over 20 minutes gets deleted from the table.

Stuart

[Chris]

Nice site, and interesting to see how BNI looks in the USA (I'm a member of a chapter over here in the UK).